30/08/2008 17:07 BERLIN, August 30 (RIA Novosti) – The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe has accumulated evidence pointing to “numerous wrong decisions” made by Georgian leaders that led to a military crisis with Russia, Der Spiegel said on Saturday.

In a report to be published in its Monday edition, OSCE military observers in the Caucasus described detailed planning by Georgia to move into South Ossetia which contributed to the crisis, the German magazine said.

The report also backed up Russian claims that the Georgian offensive was already in full swing by the time Russian troops and armored vehicles entered the Roksky Tunnel, on the border with Russia and South Ossetia, to protect its peacekeepers and the civilian population.

The OSCE report also contains suspected war crimes committed by Georgians, who ordered attacks on sleeping South Ossetian civilians.

Georgia attacked South Ossetia on August 8 in an attempt to regain control over the separatist republic, which split from Tbilisi in the early 1990s.

Most people living in South Ossetia have Russian citizenship and Moscow subsequently launched an operation to “force Georgia to accept peace.” The operation was concluded on August 12.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev signed decrees Tuesday recognizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent states and called on other countries to follow suit.

Russia has accused Georgia of committing “genocide” by launching the offensive in South Ossetia. Russia is calling for an international war crimes trial for the Georgian leadership, which Moscow says is responsible for massive loss of life in South Ossetia.

This is about South Ossetia: Truth! This will help you understand why Russia did what they did to help South Ossetia……

RT correspondent: Oksana Boyko investigates the aftermath of the conflict in South Ossetia. She produced an in depth report into the mothers who are grieving the loss of their children during the war.

Why? Georgia, Why? What did we do to you? Why? Georgia Why?: the mother cries over her dead son!

I ask: “What did South Ossetia do to deserve being attacked by Georgia?”
I ask: “Do you really think that Georgia considered Ossetians their people?”

Kyle & Svet

comments always welcome.

Putin interview:

Certain forces in the United States could have initiated the conflict in Georgia to create an advantage to one of the US presidential candidates. Vladimir Putin voiced this opinion during his recent interview with CNN.

This point of view appeared in Russia soon after Georgia’s aggression in South Ossetia. Prominent Russian politicians said that the conflict had been orchestrated by the USA because Georgia, being a tiny state, would have never invaded South Ossetia without the USA’s permission. The version also said that the war in South Ossetia had been plotted by Vice President Dick Cheney not to let Barack Obama take the White House as a result of the November elections.

“They needed a small victorious war. If it did not work out right, then they can lay the blame on us, make us look like an enemy and unite the country again around certain political forces. Why does this supposition look surprising to you? I am surprised that you are surprised about the things I say. It all lies on the surface,” Putin told the CNN journalist.

Vice speaker of the Russian parliament, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, took up the version too.

“It is all being done for their person – John McCain – to win the elections on November 5. The US defense complex needs to have its own person in the White House – John McCain,” Zhirinovsky said.

“Dick Cheney is the prime enemy of humanity today. Bush is a puppet, just like Saakashvili,” the notorious Russian politician stated.

“US citizens were involved in the conflict. They acted so because they were ordered to act so, and the only person who could give such orders to them is their leader,” Putin said in his interview with CNN.

In the Russian text of Putin’s interview to CNN this idea was formulated as follows:

“We have serious reasons to believe that US citizens were staying in the combat zone. If it is true, if facts are confirmed, it would be very bad. It is very dangerous and this policy is erroneous,” Putin said.

His extensive interview to CNN in the Russian language can be found on the official website of the Russian government.

“Even during the Cold War, during the tough opposition between the Soviet Union and the United states, we always avoided direct clashes between our nationals, not to mention military men,” the prime minister emphasized.

Vladimir Putin expressed his regret about the fact that the United States had not interfered into the conflict between Georgia and South Ossetia and had not stopped the Georgian administration from escalating it.

“I was disappointed because the US administration had done nothing to stop Georgia in the initial stage of the conflict, Interfax quoted Putin as saying.

The Russian prime minister reminded that he was talking to US President Bush on August 8 in Beijing, during the opening of the Olympic Games. The US president said that he would not like a war to happen somewhere.

“At 12 o’clock local time, Georgian troops seized a peacemaking township in the south of Tskhinvali. It is not us to guarantee that we are not going to attack anyone. We have not attacked anyone. We ask for guarantees from others so that no one would ever attack us and kill our citizens,” Putin said.

Washington not only ignored Georgia’s aggression against South Ossetia, but also armed the Georgian army, Putin said.

“Why would anyone conduct long-standing negotiations looking for complicated compromises in ethnic conflicts? It is a lot easier to arm one of the feuding sides and push it towards murdering the people of the other side – done. It seems to be such an easy decision to make. As it turns out in reality, it does not happen so always,” Putin stressed out.

Putin said that it was President Dmitry Medvedev, who ordered the Russian troops to enter Georgia.

“Medvedev was aware of my opinion on the matter. But it was only the President of the Russian Federation, the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, Mr. Medvedev, who could make such a decision,” Putin stated.

Putin also said that Russia is not going to turn a blind eye on the killings of its citizens for the sake of its membership in international organizations.

“Are we supposed to let someone kill us, and they would keep us in, let’s say, the Group of Eight?” he said.

The Russian prime minister pointed out that he could hear the Western media and politicians talking a lot about a threat that was coming from Russia.

“You and me are sitting here and talking in the city of Sochi. US warships with missiles on board have arrived [in the Black Sea] being several hundreds of kilometers away from here. The range of their missiles is exactly several hundreds of kilometers. These are not our warships approaching our shores. These are your warships approaching our shores,” Putin told the CNN journalist.

“We do not want any complications, we do not want to argue with anyone, nor do we want to wage wars against anyone. We want to conduct a normal cooperation and see a respectful attitude to us and our interests,” Putin said.

The Group of Eight is inferior without China and India, Putin said in his extensive interview.

“The Group of Eight is an inferior organization in its current state. It is impossible to imagine the normal development of the world economy without inviting the People’s Republic of China or India,” the Russian premier said.

Answering the question about a possibility of Russia’s exclusion from the G8 club, Putin called into question the G8’s effective activities without Russia in such fields as the struggle against terrorism, drugs, infectious diseases and the prevention of WMDs proliferation.

“I think that one should not think about it and one should not frighten anyone with it. It is not frightening at all. One should only try to analyze the situation properly, look into the future and establish normal relations treating each other’s interests with respect,” Putin said.

Putin added that Russia still hopes for close cooperation with other states although it should be equitable cooperation.

“We want to live in peace and consent. We want to work normally in all directions – on the international security, disarmament, anti-terrorist and anti-drug struggle, on the Iranian and North Korean nuclear issue, we are ready for all of this,” Putin said.

“But we want this work to be honest, open, based on partnership, not selfishness,” the Russian premier said.

Putin believes that Russia can cease its cooperation with the West on the Iranian nuclear program under certain circumstances.

“If no one wants to talk to us on these issues and if cooperation with Russia is not required at this point – well, they can work there alone for god’s sake,” he said.

Putin was particularly emphatic expressing his opinion about the state-run Western media providing false information about the conflict in South Ossetia.

“As for the perception of the events in South Ossetia by the general public, it largely depends on how politicians can manipulate the media and how they can affect the public opinion in the world. Our US colleagues are definitely a lot better at that than we are,” Putin told CNN.

Putin exemplified his point of view with the interview of the US girl of Ossetian origin, Amanda Kokoyeva, and her aunt on Fox News.

“He [the host] was constantly interrupting her. As soon as he did not like what she was saying, he began to interrupt her, he started to cough and croak. He was ready to poop his pants and do it so expressively to make them break off. Is this the honest and objective presentation of information? Is this what they call information? No, this is not. This is misinformation,” Putin said.

The rest is at this link: (Link) In Russian!

A U.S. passport was found in a building in South Ossetia occupied by Georgian troops, a Russian military spokesperson revealed on Thursday. After Russian peacekeepers cleared the heavily defended building, a passport belonging to a Texan named Michael Lee White was discovered inside.

Deputy Chief of Russia’s General Staff Anatoly Nagovitsyn showed photocopies of the passport to media in a press briefing on Thursday.

“There is a building in Zemonekozi – a settlement to the south of Tskhinval that was fiercely defended by a Georgian special operations squad. Upon clearing the building, Russian peacekeepers recovered, among other documents, an American passport in the name of Michael Lee White of Texas,” said Nagovitsyn.

Wonder if he is still alive?

Post by Kyle Keeton
Windows to Russia…

Hello,

Today: Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has accused the US of provoking the conflict in Georgia, possibly for domestic election purposes.

In a Interview with CNN, Mr Putin said: “The fact is that US citizens were indeed in the area in conflict during the hostilities. He also said: “It should be admitted that they would do so only following direct orders from their leaders.”

Mr Putin added: “The American side in effect armed and trained the Georgian army.” Then he went on and said: “Why… seek a difficult compromise solution in the peacekeeping process? It is easier to arm one of the sides and provoke it into killing another side. And the job is done.”

“The suspicion arises that someone in the United States especially created this conflict with the aim of making the situation more tense and creating a competitive advantage for one of the candidates fighting for the post of US president.”
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Now to us in Russia this is not new information. This is very old information, in fact, I have been pointing to several issues of American and NATO interference from the beginning. Russia has been screaming about USA military involvement the second day they pushed Georgia back from South Ossetia. Russia has found much evidence to support American meddling in the Caucus region.

Strange how all of a sudden the Western world has gone off the deep end, calling Putin names again and reiterated the threats double time!

I guess: Putin is a powerful individual. The West is scared of him….

Kyle & Svet

comments always welcome.

Hello,

Have a video of the Georgian tanks attacking Tskhinval on 8-8-08, These are peoples homes that they are attacking…..

Basically from what I understand them saying is: Attack homes, fire only two three shots at a time, Shoot roofs, catch homes on fire and choose targets!

If you understand better than I do, please let us know exactly what they say.

Sad…

Kyle & Svet

comments always welcome.

MOSCOW. Aug 26 (Interfax-AVN) – Twenty people driving around in American Hummer vehicles near Poti have been detained and eight of them have been released, Russian General Staff Deputy Head Anatoly Nogovitsyn has said.

“We have checked these 20 and released eight of them. The 12 remaining persons are being checked further,” Nogovitsyn said at a news conference in Moscow on Tuesday.

The Russian side has a special interest in this incident, he said. “It is not accidental, as we can see that the Pentagon is worried about its Hummer’s,” the general said.

“We have discovered a lot of interesting things stuffed into these vehicles. And we continue working in this direction,” he said.
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The U.S. hands over military secrets to Moscow

Russia’s military is surprised by the Georgian army’s negligence

Nikolay Barsegov, — 21.08.2008
An elite group of Georgian special forces drove into the “Russian-occupied” Poti on 5 U.S. military Hummers this week. The vehicles were carrying explosives, firearms and top-secret satellite technology — the pride of NATO generals.

The Russian military learned the special forces were approaching the city long before their arrival. Their movement was detected by satellite and reports had been received from local Georgians angered by Saakashvili’s recent military actions.

According to Russian officials, they didn’t expect that a key unit of Georgian intelligence trained by top NATO specialists would drive directly into their hands. The Georgian officers were overtaken without causalities.

“We knew there was a lot of negligence going on in the Georgian army, but not to this degree,” one well-known, highly-positioned Russian general told me, who didn’t want to reveal he is currently stationed in Georgia.

There were also three Arabs among the 20-odd Georgians. The Russian military is interrogating the officers who say they didn’t intend to blow anything up. All the artillery in the vehicle was there by chance, they say. They forgot to unload the Hummers before departing. They had arrived together in such a large number to carefully study the situation in the port city.

The U.S. equipped the Georgian army with these Hummers.
It’s likely NATO will have to re-encode their entire military and space system after the operation, which will be costly. This will certainly give them something to think about: Are closer military relations with Georgia and Ukraine really worth the hassle?
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No wonder NATO is pissed: Russia is discovering all kinds of skeletons in the closet!

This goes along with the original Hummers and lots of American Military equipment that has been found and confiscated by Russia. The USA and NATO is very, very, very involved in the Georgia attack on South Ossetia……..

My Grandma always said: “Those who whine the loudest are hiding something!”

Kyle & Svet

comments always welcome.

Hello,

Want to see a deliberate alteration of the truth? According to CNN: Russia failed again and that is what everyone from America to BBC (Europe) readers are reading right now. Take a read and see what you think….

Russia fails to win support of Asian alliance! (CNN) Russia’s hopes of international support for its actions in Georgia were dealt a blow Thursday, when an Asian security alliance denounced the use of force and called for respect for every country’s territorial integrity, according to reports. The joint declaration from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, or SCO, left Russia further isolated as pressure mounts over its actions in Georgia. “The presidents reaffirmed their commitment to the principles of respect for historic and cultural traditions of every country and efforts aimed at preserving the unity of a state and its territorial integrity,” the declaration said, The Associated Press reported. “Placing the emphasis exclusively on the use of force has no prospects and hinders a comprehensive settlement of local conflicts,” AP reported the nations, China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, as saying.

China, Central Asian states back Russian role in Georgia conflict! DUSHANBE, August 28 (RIA Novosti) – China and the other members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) voiced their support on Thursday for Russia’s actions in Georgia and South Ossetia following the recent conflict. However, the Asian countries stopped short of backing Russia’s move to recognize the independence of the breakaway province, along with Georgia’s other rebel region, Abkhazia. “The leaders of the SCO member states welcome the signing in Moscow of the six principles for regulating the South Ossetia conflict, and support Russia’s active role in assisting peace and cooperation in this region,” a joint declaration adopted at the SCO summit in Tajikistan said. The security bloc, is seen as a counterweight to NATO’s influence in Eurasia, comprises China, Russia, and four Central Asian states – Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan.

The six leaders called for peaceful dialog to resolve ongoing tensions.

“The SCO member states are deeply concerned over tensions around the South Ossetian issue, and call on all sides concerned to peacefully resolve existing problems through dialog,” the declaration said.

Hello,